[fgplayer]

Ok. Maybe easiest isn't the best word. I think I'll replace it with only. Take the American Revolution. The king of England wasn't just gonna let the colonies break away, so the colonies had to fight with England to get independence. And look where we are today (I mean how powerful we are today not the economy or anything).

[Chaossama]

That's not really an example.

The American Revolution pretty much was just so that the British guys would leave and the rich and powerful American guys could take over instead.....Could call that independence, sure. But it didn't affect the rest of history beyond the fact that they're now independent from Britain.

The power of America, I believe, came out during the Industrial Revolution and in its manufacturing power.

[Ozyss]

While this is intelligent discussion, I'll begin with this: "Killing for peace is like screwing for virginity". Excuse me, for the questionable quote. Peace is a difficult thing to describe, and to many it has different meanings. Through much thinking and researching, I have come to accept that peace is when one or more people, groups, or ideals are not killing each other for land, money, or any other reason, and that peace can exist with violence, for example, all peoples and beings are not fighting or warring, but animals still kill for food and to live and breed and survive. Peace can therefore only exist in a theoretical world, as wars are already being fought, and, in my opinion, a people, group, or country should not directly engage in war unless they have been attacked first and there is no other solution to the conflict. In this theoretical world, all nations are at peace, and all people have common wisdom. Let's say Pakistan needs more land, and it wants expansion in India. If India, assuming that both leaders were wise, believed that Pakistan needed more land, then they would grant it, but if they didn't than the wise Pakistani leader would not have asked. But most leaders are not wise, and they do not have control over people. Most people have their own opinions as well, and the desire for power is an instinct. People, no matter how much they think otherwise, are still instinct-driven creatures. They still want to achieve the ultimate goal, which would be to live long enough to reproduce and help other humans. But because we have so many layers built on top of our instincts, so to speak, we have much more to use. An example is this: a person sees this girl who he would like to have sex with, but there are little ways he can do that at this point because there are other, more fertile and strong males. To overcome this, he must get money, and therefore control and power. To get money, though, he either needs to get a job or fight. He, according to instinctive nature, wants her now, so he will take the quick route: fight others and take their money. Repeat until she is impressed enough for you to "mate" with. That simple example can be reworded in so many ways to apply so nearly infinite scenarios. To have peace is to not war or fight, but people have opinions which shape who they think is attractive and what they want to have, which shape whether they will fight or not, and this usually, due to our population and culture, leads to conflict. In our time it is almost unavoidable, and war will forever be a part of human nature. Once again, I say that war can exist with violence; example: lion killing an antelope for food. I apologize for such a long and repetitive reply, but I believe I have made my point. People will continue this debate for as long as there are humans.

~Ozyss

[dangerdude]

Well im a peaceful guy, so i would choose peace.

[squashy693]

I personally think one should only go to war if he/she has no other options. I like the errr.... thingy "Peace can only be attained by the edge of a sword" I think this is a good thingy it works too. but still .... and now i've lost whatever it was i was talking about!!!

[kilibko]

Its in human nature to be greedy, to be hateful, to fight. As long as man exists, war will exist. You can help keep the peace, but it wont last for to long. There will always be someone crazy enough to do something stupid. I agree with what some of you said, war is also a way to help stop humans from overpopulating the planet. But here is another question, if humans ever manage to populate other planets, do you think that the planets that we populate will eventuality go to war with each other? I think they would.

[Blowpop]

The sale and trade in arms combined with the wages of the armed forces contributes a lot to a country's economy. Also in all previous wars, conflict has sped up the development of technology, science and medicine dramatically when you compare it to estimate of when technologies would be ready etc.

Without World War 2 the computer wouldn't have been as advanced as it is today, it might not have even existed at all.

[Blowpop]

Originally Posted by Chaossama

That's not really an example.

The American Revolution pretty much was just so that the British guys would leave and the rich and powerful American guys could take over instead.....Could call that independence, sure. But it didn't affect the rest of history beyond the fact that they're now independent from Britain.

The power of America, I believe, came out during the Industrial Revolution and in its manufacturing power.

The power of America came out during the second world war when almost all of America's manufacturing economy went into military overdrive producing the majority of equipment used by the allied forces. e.g. The manufacturing plants for cars became tank factories in a amazingly short period of time.

P.S. the industrial revolution started and was mainly in the United Kingdom then the technologies spread from there.

[racing boy]

Originally Posted by Rotom152

I say peace,not war.Why would you say war?I know true peace would be unattainable but it would be nice.War will just rage on forever,we won't have world peace,but I'd like peace.

To shorten,I say peace.

That's true.Exactly what i think.
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[Dudewithfood]

Peace is a fool's dream.

[By Reason of Insanity]

As long as there is Religion, Money, Power, and Greed, There will ALWAYS be War.

[taumer]

This is late and all but look at this.


War is major fighting between two people. what is it called when wild animals make "war" they are surviving. War is necessary. If not for war like say World War 2 an estimated 50,000,000 people, soldiers and civilians together, lost there lives one way or another. now look if that didn't take place that 50,000,000 people would be alive, have kids and their kids have kids. Now look at how the world is, food shortages, energy crisis now think if the war didn't happen would we be better off or worst? War and disease are one and the same Nature reducing the human population to make it not so much a strain on the enviroment. Now if war didn't not happen where would we be technologicly (spelling?). We would not have atomic energy or anything. All technology available to us was made at first for military purposes after the war is done the victor would present it to the world as a gift. No WW2 no internet for example. War will always be there as long as there are two people on this planet. look at Caan and Able brothers but end up killing him.

I am a history buff and i talk with my high school history adn government teachers and we talk about the future....WW3. Yes WW3 we have our money on China starting it. Teacher told me at a workshop over the summer there was talk of China going to war just to REDUCE their population because they have around 2 girls for every 5 guys. think that one over for a while.

Yes war is started because of human need and desire but that is because humans are not the most perfect creatures we have our faults,many at that. Now i dont know about yall but this war we are in is needed. We were attack Sept. 11 just as on December 7th 1941. you didn't see us sit back and say "oh thats okay Japanase, we will look other way why you carve up the pacific" no we didn't. Did we know about the attack before hand on both cases 1941 definitely 2001 most likely. But then like in 2001 our Presidents wanted to get involved but Congress wouldn't let them so did they "not see it coming" and let it happen i believe so but that was what it needed to happen.

I am a strong Bush fan even today dont' care for Obama but i will sit back and give him a chance no one really knows.

[squashy693]

Originally Posted by squashy693

I personally think one should only go to war if he/she has no other options. I like the errr.... thingy "Peace can only be attained by the edge of a sword" I think this is a good thingy it works too. but still .... and now i've lost whatever it was i was talking about!!!

lol i quoted myself, anyway all peace is temporary, it's just a matter of when someone screws up and the sh*t hits the fan. i myself don't know what being stuck in a waring state ,but i would perfer to be in a peaceful place, like most people would.

[Eagle Eye]

War.....

[Ms.Zeusy]

I'm gonna Keep this short and Simple


-Without War, There will be no Peace
-War I believe is natural Instinct in the Human Psyche to Keep Population Down
-War will always Exist as long as there is a Disagreement of Powers

[Danielo]

i think, that most of the war are not starting because greed or that stuff. its all about ideology, about wath the sizes think that its the true. they figting about ther true. sometims evil or wit interest, to win with hhis true. its all about true. evry one think tat he is the good, and the other are evil. its in our neutre.

P.S. war ddont start because pupolation problemes. you can take care of them without bloodshed.